Weed/Maconha/Hash Thread

[Joshua]

a parada já não era legalizada na california?

Na Califórnia é somente para uso medicinal. No colorado eles acabaram de aprovar para uso recreacional.

[Alvinho]

lá é apenas para uso medicinal

[Joshua]

a parada já não era legalizada na california?

Na Califórnia é somente para uso medicinal. No colorado e Washington eles acabaram de aprovar para uso recreativo.

[Gorizinho]

Não, em 2010 teve votação na California mas não passou, lá só pode maconha medicinal (o que da quase na mesma, qualquer um consegue um atestado). Agora no Colorado e Washington vai se poder vender pra qualquer pessoa acima de 21 anos, teoricamente, porque na lei federal ainda é ilegal, então a guerra não ta vencida ainda, mas é um primeiro passo.

[leoneldevito]

Épico. Épico também vai ser o uruguai começando a distribuir daqui poucos meses e os proibicionistas vendo que no fim, eles estavam totalmente errados.

[felipeworm]

Épico.
Só não é perfeito pq tem Utah no meio.

[tzampa]

saudade do berdinho

[leoneldevito]

Boto fé que em menos de uma década nós vamos olhar pra trás e rir disso tudo, lembrando do tempo em que o cara não podia plantar um vegetal no pátio sem ter os fiscais da lei prendendo o cara ao invés de prender bandido.

[Gorizinho]

Boto fé que em menos de uma década nós vamos olhar pra trás e rir disso tudo, lembrando do tempo em que o cara não podia plantar um vegetal no pátio sem ter os fiscais da lei prendendo o cara ao invés de prender bandido.

Minha mãe é investigadora da policia civil, nas ultimas semanas ela tem estado encarregada de monitorar umas escutas telefonicas de uns suspeitos de tráfico de drogas. Ela gasta quase todo o tempo de expediente nas escutas, e pra que ? Se acabarem prendendo os tais suspeitos, o que muda ? No outro dia ja tem outro no lugar. Nesse tempo ela poderia estar investigando assassinato, roubo, furto, fraudes, enfim, qualquer coisa que realmente fizesse alguma diferença pra sociedade, mas não, tá la enxugando gelo. Enquanto isso os ladrões de carro fazem a festa aqui em Poa, tá foda. Alias, ontem de noite tentaram furtar o carro do vizinho na frente de casa, minha mãe tava na janela e viu, sacou a pistola e os vagabundo sairam fincado, cena épica.

[Soneca]

Cara, vou deixar um texto aqui em spoiler pra quem quiser ler. Vão ter muitas coisas que muitos já sabem, mas as fontes são vários estudos de qualidade.


Só pra esclarecer meu ponto de vista: fumo há 5, 6 anos. Passei super bem colocado na primeira vez que tentei vestibular pra medicina numa universidade federal. Consigo ir bem, fumando, etc. Mas já tive períodos em que o aumento do uso veio concomitante com a queda do meu rendimento. Bem como, períodos em que o aumento do volume de jogos de poker causou o mesmo.
Concordo em muitos pontos que o leonel coloca aqui, mas muitos eu discordo. Com certeza maconha CAUSA essa letargia, essa dificuldade em realizar tarefas maiores, esse estereótipo não é a toa. Mas vale ressaltar que não é o uso de maconha e sim o ABUSO.

Segue o texto e referências, é só um trecho, bem rapidinho de ler pra quem interessar.

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CLINICAL PRESENTATION
Intoxication — Intoxication occurs within minutes if cannabis is inhaled and within a few hours if ingested [1]. The disorder manifests with clinically significant maladaptive behavioral or psychological changes. The intensity or magnitude of these changes varies widely, depending upon the dose of THC ingested and characteristics of the individual using cannabis, such as the rate of absorption, tolerance, sensitivity to the effects of cannabis, and metabolism. The duration of subjective intoxication is typically three to four hours, and is prolonged with oral ingestion because of continued slow absorption from the gut [1,2].
Marijuana has a remarkably low acute toxicity. There has never been a documented death attributed directly to marijuana use [2], although THC and its metabolites are commonly found in drug overdose cases [3,4].
Mood, perception, thought content — Ingestion typically leads to feeling "high," marked by a euphoric, pleasurable feeling and a decrease in anxiety, alertness, depression, and tension. However, first-time cannabis users as well as anxious, and psychologically vulnerable individuals may experience anxiety, dysphoria, and panic [2]. Increased sociability usually occurs during intoxication. However, dysphoric reactions may be accompanied by social withdrawal.
Perceptual changes include the sensation that colors are brighter and music is more vivid [2]. Time perception is distorted in that perceived time is faster than clock time. Spatial perception can also be distorted, and high doses or potent cannabis products may cause hallucinations. Mystical thinking, increased self consciousness, and depersonalization may occur, as well as transient grandiosity, paranoia, and other signs of psychosis [1,2].
Cognition, psychomotor performance — Cannabis use decreases reaction time and impairs attention, concentration, short term memory, and risk assessment. These effects are additive when cannabis is used in conjunction with other central nervous system depressants [2]. Acute cannabis use also impairs motor coordination and interferes with the ability to complete complex tasks that require divided attention.
Impairment of cognition, coordination, and judgment lasts much longer than the subjective mood change of feeling "high." Psychomotor impairment lasts for 12 to 24 hours due to accumulation of marijuana in adipose tissue, slow release of THC from fatty tissue stores, and enterohepatic recirculation. However, a marijuana user may think that he or she is no longer impaired several hours after the acute mood altering effects have resolved. As an example, a placebo controlled trial with licensed pilots found that smoking marijuana impaired performance on a flight simulator for up to 24 hours [5]. In addition, only one of the nine subjects was aware that performance was still impaired at 24 hours.
Acute psychomotor impairments interfere with the ability to operate other heavy machinery such as automobiles, trains, and motorcycles. A meta-analysis of nine studies found an association between cannabis intoxication and an increased risk of a motor vehicle collision involving serious injury or death [2,6,7]. Drivers using cannabis are two to seven times more likely to be responsible for accidents compared to drivers not using any drugs or alcohol [8]. The probability of causing an accident increases with plasma levels of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol [6].
Physiologic signs — The physiologic signs of cannabis intoxication include:

• Tachycardia
• Increased blood pressure
• Increased respiratory rate
• Conjunctival injection (red eye)
• Dry mouth
• Increased appetite

Abuse — Cannabis abuse is a repeated pattern of use and intoxication that develops over an extended period of time and leads to harmful consequences such as recurrent failure to fulfill major role responsibilities, persistent social problems, and legal issues. Abuse is distinguished from dependence by the absence of compulsive use, physiologic tolerance, or physiologic withdrawal [1].
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1. American Psychiatric Association. Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th ed, American Psychiatric Association, Washington, DC 2000.
2. Ashton CH. Pharmacology and effects of cannabis: a brief review. Br J Psychiatry 2001; 178:101.
3. Hall W, Solowij N. Adverse effects of cannabis. Lancet 1998; 352:1611.
4. World Health Organization. Cannabis: A Health Perspective and Research Agenda, WHO, Geneva 1997.
5. Leirer VO, Yesavage JA, Morrow DG. Marijuana carry-over effects on aircraft pilot performance. Aviat Space Environ Med 1991; 62:221.
6. Kalant H. Adverse effects of cannabis on health: an update of the literature since 1996. Prog Neuropsychopharmacol Biol Psychiatry 2004; 28:849.
7. Asbridge M, Hayden JA, Cartwright JL. Acute cannabis consumption and motor vehicle collision risk: systematic review of observational studies and meta-analysis. BMJ 2012; 344:e536.
8. Leggett T, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. A review of the world cannabis situation. Bull Narc 2006; 58:1.

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